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  • FinalGC
    01-05 12:13 PM
    Just the other day I was dreaming that Obama will pass a rule that all those who are here in US legally for 10 years + will get citizenship....:):) Maybe I was dreaming too much...

    Hope that dream becomes true for many of us.....Keep this thread alive, maybe we can motivate the Congress to pass this rule.

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  • vin13
    08-20 02:26 PM
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  • 485Mbe4001
    09-24 05:37 PM
    My reasoning for less than 3k visas for EB3 I

    Assume EB3 I has 2800 available per year
    2800/12 = 233.33 per month.
    The spread sheet shows that there are 135 pending with PD of March 01 or less. Which is less than 233 the PD did not cross April because there are 452 applications in april. A PD of April makes sense. Using calculation the PD will be July 2001 in Dec.

    if you assume 8080 visas per year then there will be 673 visas availble per month and the PD should have crossed to May 2001 because the total pending 485s on May 1st are 587. If we go with your assumption then the PD in December will be at Jan 2002...I

    This is not the correct understanding. I know this myth is propogated millions of times in millions of board and so now this myth has become "truth" for millions. But that is not the correct way USCIS does things.

    Country specific limit - 9% does NOT have any realtion to "assigning numbers". it is just meant to "approve 485 - mail you a real physical green card".

    In ROW cataegory other countries are also bound with this 9 (7 + 2) % limit for Visa granting. For an example - For Pakistan USCIS will never grant more than 9% visa per year no matter how many applications from Pakistan have been assigned a valid visa number. Same will go true for Britain or any "other" country.

    In reality How USCIS divide 28.6% among countires - That is unknown mystery and nobody surely know that. And that is why I had to assume "equal shares - 5 part" in my analysis assuming USCIS works fairly but we all know that is a bullshit too :)

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  • jasmin45
    07-13 07:12 AM
    Sorry if a thread already exist to track Lou Dobbs statements and speculations on CNN about Immigration and other issues. Looked around since yesterday but could not find any.

    As Greg Siskind suggested,
    "The best thing I think you can do is to aggressively fact check him. He should be monitored every night and every statement in his immigration stories should be researched to determine accuracy. The most effective way he has been dealt with is the way 60 Minutes did it when they reported on some seriously incorrect statements he reported. He gets EXTREMELY defensive when he's questioned on his factual reporting.

    It's hard to attack him just for his opinions. But CNN holds itself out as a credible news organizations and they are sensitive on these issues.

    If there was a team of people who know immigration issues well and if we could find regular examples of false statements, I think the pressure would increase. Such documentation would also help for pursuing any efforts to get advertisers to pull out from the show."

    Request members to post all the statements from Lou Dobbs on this thread. Also request members to run a fact check on his wild speculations and include them along.


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  • pappu
    01-07 07:09 PM
    Massive IV campaign for Administrative fixes

    Dear Members,

    Immigration Voice is starting a massive campaign to get administrative relief for our community. We have had several fruitful meeting with the administration in 2007, some of these meetings were scheduled in September, November and then in December. In these meetings, we were able to convince the administration about the implication and hardship due to current broken system. Since Congress has not been able to address our issues in 2006-07, we were successful in creating a case for administrative fixes that would give much needed interim relief to EB community. These meetings helped us start a conversation on possible administrative fixes like 3 year EAD-AP, clearly defining “same or similar” if AC-21 is invoked, and we are hearing favorable feedback.

    Due to lack of action on legislative front our community’s patience is running out and we want some relief urgently to get out of probationary status. We are thus starting this nationwide campaign that will help our advocacy efforts and get administration to act quickly. There are several components to this campaign.

    1) Support from lawmaker offices: We urge all our members to meet their lawmaker offices and get them to write to The President in support of administrative fixes and urging for an immediate administrative relief. The template of the letter is attached. Letters from lawmaker offices to administration get far more attention as compared to anybody else writing the same letter. The template of the letter is posted below. Please request lawmakers to give you a copy of the letter or lawmakers could copy IV on their letter to The President. Here is a template to write to your local congressman and senator: (

    2) Support from employers: We urge all members to approach their employer and have them send a letter to The President expressing support for our administrative fixes and appealing for an immediate relief. The template of the letter is attached below. Please request your employer to give you copy of the letter so that you could provide IV with the copy of the letter.

    3) Plea from our community: We urge all our members to write personalized letters to The President directly and convey their plight. If you would like to write your own personalized letter, please do so with your own story. Make sure to stick to the administrative fixes we have listed in the letter template and how these fixes could help you and your family. Please put your name and address in your letter. Anonymous letters will not be delivered and will be discarded. We request that you create 2 copies of your letter. One copy should be posted to The President and the second copy should be sent to Immigration Voice mailbox address at –

    Immigration Voice
    P O Box 1372
    Arcadia, CA 91077-1372

    You can write your own letter or use one of the LETTER TEMPLATES below. Be sure it includes the key points.

    The deadline for receiving all the letters is 1st March 2008. Our plan is to collect thousands of letters that we will also receive in IV mailbox and deliver them, along with the letters from employers and lawmakers across the country, during our meeting with the administration. We believe that this will make a necessary impact to strengthen our case and gather the necessary political will required for administrative fixes. We will also try to get media coverage for this campaign and draw national attention.

    Please inform all your friends stuck in greencard retrogression and have them participate in this effort. Please post information about this campaign and link to this thread to as many sites, blogs you can so that we can get extraordinary scale of participation. The success of this effort will depend on the collective sincerity of the entire EB community to get letters from lawmakers, employers and members of the community. Immigration voice is counting on each and every member and it is in up to each member to make this campaign a success and help us to improve our and our families’ lives.
    Reminder: Pls mail 2 letters

    1) (copy 1)please send a separate letter to the President.
    2) (copy 2)Send a copy of that letter to IV. After the letters are sent to the President, IV will have a meeting with senior administration officials. In that meeting we will carry the copies of the letters and deliver to them.


    Pls feel free to change the text of the letter and personalize it if you wish. If you wish to include your story and attach a photo copy of your degrees, patents, awards, please do so. Just make sure to include the information on provisions we are trying to push.

    If you are handwriting the letter, your writing should be legible. If nobody can read your writing, then it will defeat the purpose. Write the letter in such a way that the key points are easy to read. If you would like to use rules, bold text, highlighters etc... go ahead and do it.

    We all need to be as creative as possible to make this campaign a success.


    Everyone that took part in the IV lobby day in September 2007 should get in touch with the lawmaker offices now and request them for letters. If you have met your local lawmaker offices through state chapters or on your own, it is time to visit them again for this request.

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  • gc_dream07
    10-01 02:55 PM
    I think if you have I-551 stamped on your passport then you do not need any other document. i-551 is as good as physical green-card. You can carry the approval notice with you. This is my opinion, do no quote on me.

    Our cases were approved on Sep 21, 2010. Received approval notices on Sep 25, 2010. But did not get the Cards yet. I am planing to travel next week. So I went to local USCIS office and got the I-551 stamp on my passport. Can you guys suggest me what other documents I need to take along with me if I don't receive the cards by the time I leave. Also pls let me how long will it takes to receive the cards.

    Thank you,


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  • Techieforever
    08-13 11:48 AM
    call National Customer Service Center (NCSC) at 1.800.375.5283

    and also the read the pdf from the link for the follow up
    Thanks Krish
    Will try on Monday.. hope something postive will come out of it

    thansk again

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  • pitha
    09-26 10:38 AM
    cir failed because the senate did not have a filibuster proof majority (60) to pass cir. This time the democrats are expected to gain 4 to 5 seats in the senate, that will take there majority to 54 or 55 from the current 50 (49 +liberman). With a majority of 54 or 55 the filibuster will not happen again in senate and cir will pass in the senate.

    The difference between Bush and obama in calling for cir is that Bush was an unpopular lame duck president, his party was a minority in both the house and senate. Obama if elected president would have the democrats in control of both the house and senate, therefore when obama says he wants to pass cir, it will happen, so take it seriously and dont live in a fantasy that CIR will fail again.

    to all those people who cliam that cir won't be bad, please, please name some provisions that were good for Eb immigrants. Please dont use words like "hope", might" etc,durbin wants to knock the living daylights out of EB immigrants. I want to know if there was anything good in cir, not good things you hope to be in cir

    These are a list of bad things that were in cir and will be in durbin cir

    -DId cir have stem exemption? answer no
    -Did cir have visa recapture? answer no
    -Did cir increase the eb quota to reduce the backlog? answer no
    -Did cir exempt the existing EB applicants from the new "points based
    system", answer this seems to be a gray area, no clear answer (there is a
    debate about this)
    -Did cir have draconian restrictions on H1, answer yes
    if there are any more nagatives please add to the list.

    guys, the reason behind this post is not to pick a fight with anyone or to win an argument, but to look at the facts and realize the deep shit we will be in and address the issues. Just like a sick patient will expire if he lives in denial and does not take his medicine, we the eb immigrants will expire with cir if we dont realize we will be sick with cir and start looking for medicine.


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  • capriol
    01-08 11:15 AM
    Dear Friends:
    Any visa stamsping experiences at Kolkata Consulate through PIMS system?
    Please share. Thanks

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  • pappu
    06-25 11:23 AM
    ............Expanding on my previous posts.
    One more thing.
    If you decide to apply multiple 485s with each other as dependents, then file just one first. Wait. Gets its A number and put that number in the other application. This way you will cover one pitfall of multiple filing. It will not cause confusion at USCIS end. Now This will not completely eliminate all risks in multiple filing. There have been cases in the past where when you inquire the status of one application, you will get the status of other. And if the PD of other is new, you can get stuck in a blackhole and will either have to wait for USCIS to sort it out or keep trying other ways to solve it. One of the reasons for delay (rightly put by Murthy) is -- when an application is adjudicated by a CIS officer, if the officer sees that there are other files open for the same individual, the officer will not adjudicate that application until that officer has all of the files in existence for that individual. This causes significant delays and confusion in adjudication.
    Also do not apply EAD and AP on both. This is commonsense. But just mentioning it here in case..
    I also researched the option of CP on one and regular 485 on other. While CP looks attractive, there are lot of risks. I have a big document on this. Overall I would not recommend this to anyone who wants to play safe.
    Even multiple filing option should be pursued by critically evaluating your own situation. See how much you and your wife have secure jobs. How new are your PDS. What catagories do you belong to. Do not just apply because you have money to throw away. If throwing money gives you peace of mind, then by all means give it to the lawyers to file I485.

    Again. There is nothing right or wrong. Multple filing is only good for very specific cases to have a safety net. This is what I have found till now.


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  • rsharma
    09-24 07:57 PM
    Thanks Ramba for the analysis. Kudos to you to bring out the true fact regarding the spill over. I see you are belong to Eb3 ROW category but still you stood for the truth.

    Lot of analysis. Here is my part. If DOS properly followed the INA as amended by AC21 act in 2000, EB2-I never retrogressed since year 2005. EB2 I might have been always �current�. EB3 including ROW might have been much worst situation than now. EB3-IN will always be in disaster state. Though it is unfair to (EB3) many, this is what the law. In later part of 1990s EB categories were retrogressed for IN, CH by about 2 years. When AC21 law passed in 2000, it did two very important things. One recapture of about 216,000 EB visas and it removed country quota in each EB category if excess visas available, in that category. That means it enforced horizontal spill over. In simple example, consider Mexico which is most subscribing country. Lets assume in a fiscal year, 40,000 Mexican are eligible for EB2 visa(and no other citizens in EB2), and millions of Mexican eligible for EB3 and in family based categories, still DOS should issue 40,000 EB2 visa to Mexicans irrespective of how much demand in other categories. Because of tons of backlogs in 485 (between 2000 and 2004), particularly in EB3, DOS issued about 185000 (out of 216000) to EB3. That�s why EB3 was current between 2000 and 2004. They simply ignored the EB2 demand by India and retrogressed in 2005, though total demand for EB2 less than the available pool of recaptured visas. Since the year 2007, they realized the mistake and now (since 2007) they are following correctly (though may not fair) the law. If they follow correctly the law, EB2-IN, Ch will become current soon. Till all EB2 become current, EB3 never see any spill over. Till EB3 �ROW become current, EB3 IN will not see any spill over. Till that point EB3-In will get only 2800 EB3 visas.

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  • speddi
    08-14 07:17 AM
    Check with your lawyers. It should be easy to get an amended approval notice or atleast a letter from USCIS that it is okay.

    Thank you, attorney said it is OK, there should not be an issue at all.


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  • dtekkedil
    07-11 02:30 PM
    I think the company should be filing the fees but lawyers fee for filing is not their liability.

    I am paying for everything including filing fees. I thought that the company is no longer involved once you are through the I-140 stage.

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  • natrajs
    10-01 04:23 PM
    Finallly, my online status changed from "Initial review" -> "Document production" and also got email from Senator's office that my case is approved.

    I think I got it....but not 100% sure approval emails yet... or no other proof.


    Finally , Congrats & Best Wishes


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  • dingudi
    01-31 10:20 AM
    How do you know that experience in Canada or Mexico will be any different from experience in India? It can be only better at a consulate that hasn't yet implemented PIMS, which I don't think there are any at this point. At least you are at home with family. I think the worst is to be stuck in Canada or Mexico for a month. I think the moral of the story is to use AP whenever possible.

    I personally know at least couple of friends who went to canada in the hopes that they will get the stamp earlier. But both of them were stuck because of PIMS for weeks. One was stuck for 6 weeks and other 5 weeks.

    So I do not think revalidation in India or canada or mexico really matters.

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  • chandooo
    10-01 12:49 PM
    If your Notice date is in Sept 2007, we need to wait for our turn. Look for the NOTICE DATE on your 485 application.
    what does it means ???


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  • kshitijnt
    11-20 08:29 PM
    Here is some real advice:
    Letting your bank forclose on you or filing for bankruptcy is not a decision you take lightly asking people on the forum for advice. Your credit score can go down by as much as 300 points affecting you financially over the next few years which you perhaps have not really thought about. Just because you have existing loans (like credit cards) on a low rate does not mean they are 'locked'. Banks can hike the rates periodically based on your current score often to as high as 32 %. This is not pennies but can be hundreds of dollars in interest. Ever got harsh calls from collectors ? Ever got evicted from your place of residence ? Ever got denied when you try to rent ? Try living only on cash for a few weeks and see how it feels without credit. I have not gone through any of those thankfully but have seen and heard horror stories. Consult a professional or do research on your own before making a decision.

    First of all I am not affected by foreclosure and nor do I own a property.

    Now let me say this: What is the fault of Punjabi if his house price went down by $200K? He has a load which is not only more than his house value, he is also paying an interest on that loan. It is true that he has got into hot water but how many years will it take to make $200 K? Most of us are not millionaires here. It is true that he will suffer for a few years but I dont see why giving up the house is not an option. Why would he continue to pay interest and principal when his house may not get to the same value in his lifetime? I think foreclosure is a small price to pay in that light.

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  • anotherone
    01-29 06:52 PM
    As such, you have to start looking for other jobs because you are not sure if they will accept EAD even after a week.

    If they offer you the job, well and good, but if not, I think you can litigate for various reasons because what they did is not right.

    I am going to start as soon as I calm down :)
    however, it is not easy preparing with a whining toddler at my knees ,

    *goes off to find daycare*

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  • gccovet
    11-07 10:37 AM
    How can we get this issue more visible to IV members? Just 64 letter is not enough. We are a community of 30K strong!!!

    Please start ending letters, ask/encourage your peers to send them as well.
    Looks like most of IV members are being ignorant of these issue, this will be a big issue if not acted fast. We need to get it corrected before it becomes a major one. Look at DOL's unemployment figures 6.5% unemployment was announced!!!! Worst since 1994.

    Please act on these.

    Thanks for your support.


    08-23 12:40 AM
    every one is saying we should do that we should do this but how many are doing it looks like convention of smart people just planning but no implementation...

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